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tapir-models.ro Forum de machete statice 2013-10-26T03:01:08+03:00 http://tapir-models.ro/feed.php?f=19&t=428 2013-10-26T03:01:08+03:00 2013-10-26T03:01:08+03:00 http://tapir-models.ro/viewtopic.php?t=428&p=11077#p11077 <![CDATA[Re: Scoala spaniola]]> Statistics: Posted by Nicu Mihai — Sat Oct 26, 2013 3:01 am


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2013-10-24T09:54:30+03:00 2013-10-24T09:54:30+03:00 http://tapir-models.ro/viewtopic.php?t=428&p=11068#p11068 <![CDATA[Re: Scoala spaniola]]> Dar un scut pictat poate fi pictat asa si in realitate.
Ideea era ca prefer sa fac cizmele lucioase si sa las lumina sa lucreze, decat sa le fac mate si sa pun o luminita pe ele CA SI CUM ar fi lucioase. Prefer sa fac o sabie de metal cu culoare metalica sau metal natur decat sa le fac gri cu luminite si umbre.
Prefer sa nu urmez orbeste o moda - de a pune lumini pe pliurile ce coboara de la nas spre colturile gurii si apoi umbre sa le accentuez si nu stiu ce inca alt "procedeu".....A vazut cineva pe o fata de om chestia asta ?
Zicem de modeleul din culoare. Pe care am vazut ca au incercat sa-l bage la tancuri. Partea din spate mai umbrita si aia din fata mai luminata.....Si daca ma uit din spate !?

Statistics: Posted by Calin Ungureanu — Thu Oct 24, 2013 9:54 am


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2013-10-23T15:03:18+03:00 2013-10-23T15:03:18+03:00 http://tapir-models.ro/viewtopic.php?t=428&p=11051#p11051 <![CDATA[Re: Scoala spaniola]]>
Pe de alta parte, ca sa ma contrazic singur, scuturile pictate de rusi cu icoane sunt dementiale. Si alea sunt pictura, nu mai e modelism.

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2013-10-23T10:29:18+03:00 2013-10-23T10:29:18+03:00 http://tapir-models.ro/viewtopic.php?t=428&p=11050#p11050 <![CDATA[Re: Scoala spaniola]]> Chiar daca raspunsul e tardiv, voi incerca sa pun doua exemple ca sa se inteleaga despre ce e vorba.
Scoala spaniola dupa parerea mea, a pierdut contactul cu realitatea. Nu numai ca modeleaza din lumini si umbre in exces, dar ajunge sa inventeze din pensula reliefuri acolo unde acestea nu exista. As indrazni sa spun ca asta e un fel de lipsa de respect pentru munca sculptorului. In momentul cand pui tu falduri acolo unde Latore, Viktor Konov, Mario Numitone si multi altii, nu le-au vrut, inseamna ca esti frustrat ca pictezi in loc sa sculptezi.
Mai jos se poate vedea un bust realizat conform scolii spaniole (nu stiu daca pictorul era spaniol)


Interiorul obrazarelor si partea din spate a caştii, precum şi fata personajului, a fost exploatata peste maxim in ideea de modelare din culori. Maiestria este indubitabila. Insa legatura cu realitatea este practic nula.
Or personal, eu vreau sa ma apropii de realitate si nu de a transpune o pictura plana in regim tridimensional.
Ajunge sa intorci bustul ala in lumina cu cateva grade, ca umbrele alea sa nu se mai explice. Mânăreala e fantastică dar arta tinde spre kitsch.
De aia eu admir mai mult scoala ruseasca si sper ca asa cum zicea Zeno, sa se formeze o scoala nationala (ca sa evit cacofonia) care sa nu se lase influentata de renumele unor scoli venetice (nu venetiene).
Mai jos, pun un exemplu pictat de o rusoaica....Asta admir fara rezerve.

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2013-04-12T21:22:51+03:00 2013-04-12T21:22:51+03:00 http://tapir-models.ro/viewtopic.php?t=428&p=6285#p6285 <![CDATA[Re: Scoala spaniola]]> Aceste asa zise scoli se grupeaza in jurul unor artisti care au dezvoltat modelismul, creindu-si propriile companii si nu numai. Ovidiu a dat exemplul cu MIG Productions. In Spania mai sunt fratii Andrea si alte companii care grupeaza artisti care pot fi considerati din scoala spaniola si daca nu sunt neaparat spanioli.
In Italia, doua exemple Pegasus si Romeo Models cu o concentrare de artisti uluitori. Exemplele pot continua cu artisti din Rusia, SUA (cu mentiunea ca Sheperd Paine, in viziunea mea, este parintele modelismului mondial modern), Turcia, Grecia, etc.
Recent am vazut cateva figurine provenite din mana unor artisti rusi care au o caracteristica distincta uluitoare. Aceste caracteristici, promovate de un grup de artisti creaza aceasta asa zisa scoala modelistica... in acest caz scoala ruseasca.
Cu sinceritate va marturisesc, ca vad un potential foarte serios in munca multor modelisti romani in jurul carora sa se formeze generica scoala romaneasca de modelism. Poate aceasta afirmatie va starnii zambete daca nu rasul, dar, parerea mea este ca exista foarte mult potential. Daca acest potential se va imbina cu seriozitate si dorinta de progres, sansele sunt foarte mari ca in viitor sa asistam la aparitia ei.

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2013-04-12T21:22:21+03:00 2013-04-12T21:22:21+03:00 http://tapir-models.ro/viewtopic.php?t=428&p=6284#p6284 <![CDATA[Re: Scoala spaniola]]>
Personal sunt adeptul acestui stil deoarece mi se pare cel mai apropiat de realitate. Adica daca tot vrei sa faci o macheta si nu o jucarie, atunci reprodu realitatea la scara. Adica cu rugina, cu noroi, cu praf, cu zgirieturi si lovituri, etc. Sa spui ca tie-ti plac blindatele curate este ok pentru ca fiecare are dreptul sa practice "sportul" asta asa cum are chef. Dar sa bati toba ca asa a fost si in realitate, asta cred ca este o timpenie sau un fel de struguri acri (nu-s in stare sa fac un weathering, nici nu vreau sa invat si atunci le explic altora cum mergeau ele tancurile prin noroi si lupta si ieseau de-acolo imaculate).
Nu vreau sa pornesc o dezbatere pe aceasta tema fiindca nu are rost. Regula de aur este asa cum am mai spus, fiecare dupa cum ii place. Problemele intervin doar atunci cind unii vor sa-si prezinte parerile drept adevaruri universale.

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2013-04-12T21:21:10+03:00 2013-04-12T21:21:10+03:00 http://tapir-models.ro/viewtopic.php?t=428&p=6283#p6283 <![CDATA[Re: Scoala spaniola]]> Statistics: Posted by alexie — Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:21 pm


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2013-04-12T21:20:36+03:00 2013-04-12T21:20:36+03:00 http://tapir-models.ro/viewtopic.php?t=428&p=6282#p6282 <![CDATA[Scoala spaniola]]>
Daca pare o intrebare deplasata rog moderatorii sa-mi stearga topicul.

Toate cele bune.

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