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Focke-Wulff FW 62 – WIP

Avioane - de la biplane la supersonice, civile sau militare, elicoptere si orice alta "zburatoare".

Focke-Wulff FW 62 – WIP

Postby Calin Ungureanu » Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:09 am

Dragi prieteni,
De cateva saptamani mi-am calcat pe inima si m-am gandit sa incep ceva si pentru mine.
Acum cativa ani as fi facut orice sa ma vad in mana cu un FW 62 de la Planet models sau cu un FW 189 .... si inca cateva altele.
Cu timpul le-am avut. Dar parca nici nu m-am bucurat suficient si nici nu m-am apucat de vreunul din ele.
Pana sa ma apuc eu de aceste subiecte interesante, entuziasmul s-a atrofiat iar altii din diferite colturi ale lumii, au trivializat subiectele fara nici o remuscare. Ce cronologie stupida !
Deci, iata-ma insotit de 2 poze si o vedere din 3 directii alaturi de modelul din rasina FW 62 de la Planet pe masa de lucru. Avioane facute au fost 2 si trebuiau sa fie concurente cu Ar 196. Acesta din urma a fost asa bun, din toate punctele de vedere incat cei de la FW au fost sfatuiti sa renunte la dezvoltarea prototipului.
FW 62 fusese creat in doua variante: cu un flotor central si flotoare stabilizatoare la aripi si in varianta, sa-i spunem clasica, cu doua flotoare.
(ca dealtfel si Ar 196).
Am inceput constructia de la cockpit, adaugand la piesele date de producator, alte cateva scratchuite de mine, ghidandu-ma dupa bunul simt, din cauza ca nu am gasit nici o informatie pentru interiorul unui avion care a existat doar in 2 exemplare amarate.
In afara de bord si panou radio,scaune, paloniere cu mansa si cateva cutii pe pereti (date de Planet) eu am mai pus unitatea cu manetele de gaz si pas al elicei, centuri de siguranta, inhalatoare de oxigen si butelii de aer comprimat, plus inca ceva mataraie si furtune.
Am ajuns in punctul in care trebuie sa dau gaurile in aripi pentru hobane. Am mai cautat pe net si ca urmare a iesirii din protectie au aparut in doemniul public inca vreo 3 imagini si un caiet de prezentrare a prototipurilor. Mai mult decat speram si totusi nu suficient.
In cele cateva poze pe care, daca imi dau seama cum, o sa le postez si aici, sistemul de hobanaj difera.
La flotoarele de echilibrare odata exista bara de rigidizare spre exterior, odata spre interior si alta data deloc. Deasemenea firele din zona par sa fie sau sa nu fie.
Ar mai fi si alte probleme pe care sper sa ma ajutati sa le rezolv.
Nu-mi dau seama cum pot pune poze din calculatorul meu asa ca ....Pana data viitoare, spor la ce lucrati.
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Re: Focke-Wulff FW 62 – WIP

Postby Marhaba » Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:10 am

Pozele trebuie sa le gazduiesti in alta parte Caline. Iti recomand Picasa ca e usor si sigur. Apoi aici nu trebuie decit sa scrii adresa url a pozei .
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Re: Focke-Wulff FW 62 – WIP

Postby Bill » Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:11 am

Caline,
Un inceput bun, dupa ce inveti sa lucrezi cu Picassa va fi usor si de postat pozele.
Te iert acum ca-s tot din partea negativa a fortei :)
Spor si te asteptam cu drag,
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Re: Focke-Wulff FW 62 – WIP

Postby Hartman » Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:16 am

Hai Caline,pune poze.Mai zgandarit si acum ma lasi. :laugh:
Spor la proiectul tau. Sper sa ne mai vedem pe aici in mod natural si de dragul machetelor.
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Re: Focke-Wulff FW 62 – WIP

Postby Calin Ungureanu » Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:17 am

In primul rand:
Vad ca nu mi-ati sters contul. Eh, daca aveti rabdare sa postez in ritmul meu, adica in ritmul celor care-mi "reguleaza" viata, atunci e bine.
In al doilea rand:
A dat Dumnezeu si am terminat si eu ceva al meu. Faza nasoala e ca eu am un cont photobucket pe care nu vreau sa-l poluez cu fel de fel de poze, ci vreau sa stea in el numai lucrari pe care le-am produs (fiecare cu pasarica lui (cine poate cu mai multe)).
Drept urmare, nu am cum sa postez poze cu avionul real. Sau am cum dar mi se pare ca e ca si cum mi-as baga o umbrela intr-un loc stramt si intunecos si as deschide-o.
Deci voi posta cateva fotografii cu produsul finit.
Astept criticile cui vrea sa critice.











Azi sau maine, cand voi avea timp, voi mai pune acolo o serie de poze cu interiorul cockpitului la care am lucrat destul de mult. I-am pus pe langa ce avea, butelii de oxigen, i-am schimbat panoul de bord, ceva manete de gaz si pas.....D-astea. Toate din scratch bineinteles pentru ca abia a facut cineva avionul, de unde seturi aftermarket.
Pe exterior i-am pus catargul de antena de pe aripa superioara, pe care Planet nu l-a depistat si cel mic de pe coada.
Deasemenea am finalizat pe ghicite "coafa" elicei, care in poze apare....Nu - la modelul care a zburat precis.
Culoarea RLM o2 a fost facuta din amestecuri DUCO cu culori de ulei, dupa un chart de culori de la Eagles.
Decalurile Propagteam s-au asternut dumnezeieste, dar am fost pregatit si dupa cca 2 minute am scos la fata locului prin decupare (pana sa se usuce complet) filmul transparent, ca sa nu mai patesc cum am patit la He 119 de la aceeasi firma.
Riggingul l-am facut cu guta de pescuit de zero-zero si ceva, de culoare negru-verzui si am avut grija ca cablurile de comanda sa le pun dupa vopsire ca sa difere ca si culoare de hobane.
Cele mai multe probleme le-am avut la potrivirea montantilor si alinierea fuselajului cu aripile si profundoarele in general. Kitul de rasina avea un usor warp, greu de detectat in faza initiala dar care a aruncat spre sfarsit paralelismul in plopi. Nu e foarte vizibil dar eu stiu de el si de-aia dorm mai prost si mai agitat (poate mai si slabesc cu ocazia asta).
N-ati vazut (in afara de Hansa Brandemburg D II) sistem de montanti mai cretin. N-urile mari de langa fuselaj trebuie sa se intalneasca cu cele mici de pe fuselaj, aceasta facand sa stea toate aplecate. Unde mai pui ca nu se dau semne unde ar trebui fixat montantii astia. Ce sa mai vorbim de lipire cap-pe-plan, care nu prezinta nici o garantie.
Asa ca trageti tare cu sfaturi tardive si critici ca le voi pune in sertarul cu "de facut" la urmatoarea.
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Re: Focke-Wulff FW 62 – WIP

Postby Hartman » Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:18 am

Doamne,deci existi, Calin a postat din nou.
Ma bucur ca ai revenit. Sper sa ne revedem cu bine toti,
pe malul celalalt al crizei. :)
Cu pozele si eu mi-am prins degetele pana am reusit sa inteleg mecanismul.
Acum mi se pare chiar simplu.Vorba unui proverb ,"prima poza e cea mai grea".
Singura carcoteala,in poza cu intradosul.,E imbinare de panza, sau rost nechituit
la fuselajul spate?
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Re: Focke-Wulff FW 62 – WIP

Postby alexelu_marinelu » Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:19 am

Imi place tare cum arata in prima poza, cred ca din cauza efectului subtil de ochi de peste.
Nu-mi plac picaturile superglue de la intalnirea hobanelor cu planurile. In cateva poze se vad. Eu am alta metoda - dau gaura in plan (aripa) dintr-o parte in alta; apoi penetrez gaura (cu firul) si aplic superglue numai dinspre exteriorul planurilor (adica, in cazul asta, dinspre extrados pentru aripa superioara si dinspre intrados pentru aripa inferioara); astfel, broboana de cianoacrilat se creaza intr-un loc usor accesibil - la exterior, facil de slefuit.
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Re: Focke-Wulff FW 62 – WIP

Postby Calin Ungureanu » Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:20 am

Hartman - Buna ideea cu imbinarea de panza. Oricum plauzibila dupa cum vin nervurile. Adevarul este ca o contributie importanta a avut-o calitatea de "baba-chioara" care am ajuns si ochelarii rupti in doua de o sticla de 5 litri asezata pe piept. Acum i-am facut la loc.
Croitorul Marinel - Si eu fac la fel cu superglue-ul dar nu sunt asa de tenace si pretentios ca tine.
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Re: Focke-Wulff FW 62 – WIP

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Re: Focke-Wulff FW 62 – WIP

Postby Calin Ungureanu » Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:22 am

Stai linistit, se vad si cu oshiul liber daca esti atent. Era insa mai greu de vazut SG transparent pe rasina nevopsita.Tzeapa.
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